"toddlers should learn words like "vulva" at the same time they learn "ears" and "toes'..."This article discusses the "need" for children to be correctly informed about sex from the very beginning. While I see the larger objective, I don't like the idea of my toddler talking about "vagina" when I still refer to the darn thing as my "poonan", or (on occasion) my "front butt". Posted by rightmoon at November 17, 2005 11:59 AM
I agree totally......I still call it my "you know what". My girls call theirs their "butt-butts", inspired by their Nanny. Ali, parenting article/Dr. Spock expert/mom that does everything "by the book", what do you have your boys call their privates???
Posted by: La at November 17, 2005 03:17 PMmake fun all you want, but this "by the book mom" did not go "by the book" today when i tried out my bendryl on the boys (a practice run for the big flight to florida tomorrow). it definately worked, as my boys were konked out all afternoon. i definately will have a big bottle on hand tomorrow, as well as some dramamine just in case. (my pediatrician did recommend this, however, so i guess i am not TOO daring!) in regards to the "penis", my boys use the standard "pee-pee", although i at times want to call it their "beeps", like cousin markus did growing up. funny missy, that you should mention the "front butt", i still call it that at times, too! someone in the fam must have called it that to us! i have no advice for the girl 'front butts' though, as i only have boy "front butts' in my house!!!
see you soon, miss!!
Not that you really solicited any input from "strangers," but I raised a boy and a girl, who grew up respectively calling their "privates" by the real names: penis and vagina. Other "fake" labels for them just seemed to trivialize these rather important body parts. Besides, no offense intended, but I sure would feel personally responsible and guilty if my grown daughter was still calling her vagina her "front butt" by the time she was sharing it with someone she loved.
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THE MOON SAYS: Well sure, all joking aside, the idea is that the "parts" should neither be trivialized or made too big a deal out of, and I don't really have a problem at a Young Age with either name choice, as long as a parent is willing to discuss when the child has questions. I do agree that it's important to understand the science rather than be left in the dark, but I've been on the bus more than once with my 6-year-old babysittee G. when she started expounding on privates and the birds and bees. She was correct (and I'm glad she seems to understand without having attached any stigma of "good" or "bad"), but seems to have missed that such conversation and talking aloud about Vagina, Penis, etc. is not appropriate for all audiences at all times. In the article above, it struck me as overemphasis when the precocious child kept referring to her "vulva" (for whatever reason, this would not have seemed as forced as if the child had said "vagina"). I appreciate anatomical correctness, but I'm also not sure a normal four-year-old needs to know ALL the ins and outs of the reproductive system. It's such an individual choice, and I think the most important part is not the actual "word" we first learn for our boy or girl parts, but that we are instead taught that these things are natural, functioning body parts and should not have any associations of Bad, Dirty, or Unusual...
For the record, I don't call it my "front butt" when I'm sharing it with someone I love, only when I'm discussing it in the abstract. ;-)
Cheers!
Posted by: an avid reader at November 20, 2005 09:59 PMTo the "stranger:: It would behoove you to learn to lighten up. By you get through raising your son and daughter, what names they call their privates will be the least of your concerns. Take it from one who has been there.
Posted by: Aunt Donna at November 21, 2005 09:04 AMOne more word for "stranger" - PULEEEESE!
Posted by: Aunt Aunt Donna at November 21, 2005 09:07 AMHey now...room for everyone's opinion here; no need to be offended or take anything too personally. We all have different ways of dealing with the issue, and we all will try to do the best for our children in our own way.
Posted by: the moon at November 21, 2005 10:14 AMThis is true, but my opinion is with that of my mother. No offense, either, but I second that big "puh-leez".
Posted by: Lauren at November 21, 2005 11:28 AMMiss, I guess I'm too much like Grandpa. I'm sure you remember one of his favorite phrases that he used to say very sarcastically - "Life is SERIOUS"
Posted by: Aunt Donna at November 21, 2005 01:08 PMsomeone close to my children who is very "proper" refers to her "boobs" as "breasts" when talking to my 3 year old. it just sounds so weird...i mean, come on! the child is three! have a little fun with the word "boobies". all of you reading this now, say 'breasts' and 'boobies' out loud... which is more fun to say?
Posted by: ali at November 21, 2005 02:59 PMnow a final word from the person personally responsible for moon's erroneous labeling: generally we begin to use those names when we are potty-training a child. i'm sure we all know that women do not urinate from their vaginas, they urinate from their urethras, making both vagina and vulva inappropriate. teaching a kid that urine comes from the front and poop from the back seemed like the right thing at the time. little girls need to know about their vaginas so they understand menstruation and sex well after they are potty-trained, and that instruction was given using appropriate names. and i feel sure that she has never shared her urethra with her loved one. oh, and stranger, i'm sure you're not really strange; one thing i've learned as a nurse is that too many people don't really know how their body works and it is our responsibility as parents to teach them the best we know how.
Posted by: mom at November 21, 2005 03:03 PMIs there a way to un-post a comment?
Posted by: an avid reader at November 21, 2005 06:38 PM